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Case. however, that juror that we just saw questioned there, i believe juror 17, felt, in a follow-up question, that the person who voted and said, listen, there's no way i'm going with death, she felt, at least from her perspective, that it was genuine and sincerely held belief that, in fact, it was just this -- that that is not the way they could go. let's not also forget that although mental illness did not work in terms of the defense to find him insane, it could have very well worked here where it could have been a mitigating factor for that juror to say, jur juror, there is mental illnes...

Mitigating factor. but it's a death penalty case. we should talk about also, it's -- in 40 years, colorado executed one person. it happened in 1997. certainly the person deserved it. rape and shooting a person 14 times. that was in 1997. hasn't happened since that time. and the governor has indicated that he would make it very difficult to do it here. although the thing moves forward, there's mitigation, you show baby pictures and family and teachers -- >> family photos and then the next thing is that his mother is going to take the stand. she's described as the disciplinarian, the one involve...

The jury had to find only one so-called aggravating factor in the shootings. they found a total of 96. so then it moves on to the next phase, which is mitigation. here james holmes and his attorneys literally fighting for his life here. we began hearing yesterday from a parade of people from holmes' past his childhood piano teacher, a high school friend teachers, camp counselors trying to put a human face on holmes, and the defense will now continue with likely experts, psychiatrists who can talk more about his mental illness, which four psychiatrists have already testified to as a mitigating ...

Nothing. i mean that's how i feel towards him is nothing. he's -- he's aaspeck of nothing in my life and i don't want to give him any energy. >> this was a short deliberation. just two days. what did the jury have invested in knowing what they were coming back with? because obviously there was so much information they were bombarded with. >> right. it took them a day and a half and a big part of that was probably filling out more than 600 pages of verdict forms that were finally read yesterday afternoon. it really centered around as you recall whether james holmes was insane when he walked int...

Guilt phase, it doesn't seem you don't have to be a mind reader to see what's going to happen here. >> i'm thinking if you're the defense right now, and you're so roundly rejected by mental issues, what do you put up now? >> well you put his parents on the stand. the kindergarten teacher, you put on anyone who is going to give sympathy to mental illness and how this affected him and that he committed suicide as a child, and these issues have been ongoing, and therefore, they should be merciful. and yes, that may be a mitigating factor but at the end of the day, aggravating versus mitigating be...