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Actually the places that have gone later that are just seeing increases or just in the beginning of this omicron wave, they are in many ways lucky that they can learn from everybody else. if they put in pretty aggressive mitigation efforts, they can substantially reduce the peak of that wave, save themselves from a lot of infections, a lot of hospitalizations and deaths. so i would see that as good information that organizations, cities, states, should be using to make smarter decisions. >> dr. ashish jha, dean of the brown university school of public health, clear and clarifying as always. th...

The governor now becoming the latest state in the nation to turn to national guard to supplement personnel at health care facile tills. -- facilities. in terms of what might help, when you hear from one health expert who has more -- it's a little more confident in mitigation efforts that we can take right now versus ongoing vaccination efforts. here is why. >> unfortunately, if you vaccinate today the people who are unvaccinated who account for about 75% of the hospit hospita

Close to $83 billion that was supposed to be used for testing been diverted for other purposes? >> some of the funds have been used for mitigation efforts. for example, when children are crossing the border. >> dana: dr. fauci at one point caught on a hot mike calling a senator a after a heated exchange about the public availability of a financial disclosure form so that was a slight distraction today. i was going to start with jesse about it, geraldo, i'm so distracted by your amazing haircut that i feel we have to go to you first and find out what you think about this, especially with people...

What i mean is if they know it's going to be a terrible wave but a fast one, if they could make different mitigation efforts based on that knowledge, do you think epidemiologically speaking they should feel confident in making those kind of adjustments to their plans? >> absolutely, absolutely. actually the places that have gone later that are just seeing increases or just in the beginning of this omicron wave, they are in many ways lucky that they can learn from everybody else. if they put in pretty aggressive mitigation efforts, they can substantially reduce the peak of that wave, save thems...

Which, that case, put you at par with the number of deaths we see from the flu on a yearly basis and if that's the case, i think we'll look at something that looks more like the flu. at this point in time, we're still way above those numbers. >> yeah, just, looking at kind of mitigation efforts and in new york, the supreme court judge has struck down the mask mandate for indoor public places including schools and nursing homes and public transport. the mandate can remain in effect while it's being appealed but from a public health standpoint, what does all of this legal fighting that we've see...