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It is all the original sin from there. he was less specific about mueller, but he was very clear that he believes mueller has a number of conflicts of interest. one of which is something that trump's aides talked about for quite some time, although i'm not sure they had it on the record, that they say bob mueller interviewed for the interim fbi director the day before he was appointed special counsel. they consider that to be a mitt gating factor to put it mildly. the president refused to say, despite asking him repeatedly, what he would consider a violation of his charge on the part of bob mu...

The mayor. who is to say he didn't appoint them i wouldn't be careful, you're throwing out a lot of stuff you don't know is true. >> we don't know. but at the very least, you're obligated when you take a oath of office to do the best job and represent the people. if your salary is so out of whack and we're in a recession and people in your town are -- >> neil: then you have to control every politician on every council whose salary is out of whack. you think there's an excuse. >> i think not knowing or the law not being clear on the issue may be a mitt gating factor. >> neil: all i know, i got ...

Was sandusky. it's going to be a domino effect on girl's basketball and players who had nothing to do with. this. >> speaking about punishing the players, these kids now are able to go to play any place they want. current players on the roster and start at other schools. isn't that a mitt gating factor? >> i don't know how it works but a lot of them have the scouts and talent people looking at them like two or three years down the road, they've probably been burning up the phone lines. we don't have those anymore but calling them saying you're going to want to leave. university of miami will t...

Was sandusky. it's going to be a domino effect on girl's basketball and players who had nothing to do with. this. >> speaking about punishing the players, these kids now are able to go to play any place they want. current players on the roster and start at other schools. isn't that a mitt gating factor? >> i don't know how it works but a lot of them have the scouts and talent people looking at them like two or three years down the road, they've probably been burning up the phone lines. we don't have those anymore but calling them saying you're going to want to leave. university of miami will t...

Doctor, what's to say he won't do more. when is this supposed to wrap up, today or will it be delayed. >> it should happen today. the issue is whether the aggravating factors outweigh the mitt gating factors. the judge ruled there's a mitt gating factor, the fact he committed the crime in the church and the defense is trying to claim mitigating factors with four character witnesses and they hope they will at least balance the one aggravated factor. >> they brought the bible into this? >> definitely. >> shepard: how did they do that? >> the judge has been trying to keep it out but they keep sli...