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And chicago attorney welcome back. it always comes down to the tapes for me tamara. what impact does it have on the jury? >> it is interesting. there are over 500 hours of tapes. the jury only heard i would say about less than 100 conversations. remember, the fbi had the option to do minutization which meant they could turn conversations on and off. what the prosecution did they tried to play on the heart strings of the jury. instead of trying to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt, they wanted the jury to hear patty blagojevich drop f-bombs they wanted to hear the governor lift weights i...

Inside the courtroom. and chicago attorney welcome back. it always comes down to the tapes for me tamara. what impact does it have on the jury? >> it is interesting. there are over 500 hours of tapes. the jury only heard i would say about less than 100 conversations. remember, the fbi had the option to do minutization which meant they could turn conversations on and off. what the prosecution did they tried to play on the heart strings of the jury. instead of trying to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt, they wanted the jury to hear patty blagojevich drop f-bombs they wanted to hear the g...

I'm wondering you think bill. more importantly, we've now had testimony from two different people that in spite of the president's claim that he was up to his eyeballs in trying to get valerie jarrett the seat. >> i think that's the biggest thing to come out of this. the white house has to be embarrassed at least at the report they issued prior to the president being sworn in has been contradicted in so many instances. i disagree with tamara's characterization about the tapes. the prosecution has had to prove that blagojevich engaged in a scheme to sell the senate seat they've done that throug...

I'm wondering you think bill. more importantly, we've now had testimony from two different people that in spite of the president's claim that he was up to his eyeballs in trying to get valerie jarrett the seat. >> i think that's the biggest thing to come out of this. the white house has to be embarrassed at least at the report they issued prior to the president being sworn in has been contradicted in so many instances. i disagree with tamara's characterization about the tapes. the prosecution has had to prove that blagojevich engaged in a scheme to sell the senate seat they've done that throug...