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Leadership of the city of new york with the mayor? >> with the mayor, you know, there was several mayors. he had a problem with mayor koch over subsidies the trump tower was trying to get. they were warring. but in general, it was about raising money for the campaigns and, you know, schmoozing and that kind of thing. >> he even allegedly lobbied the city to make sure that he didn't have to add sprinklers above the 50th floor of trump tower. did he have a sense he could muscle city officials around orsome mo or -- >> he had so much influence, don't forget, his father had a lot of influence, and...