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The irishman. you saw "the irishman" and loved it. saw it twice, right? >> i think it's recommended to watch it in two sittings, so i sat down for an hour and a half, had a long dinner, came back to it, finish it. pesci is amazing. i grew up outside of philadelphia. to see pesci as a mob guy, it's so understated the performance. there's power in the understatement. >> by the way, i'm going to channel chris matthews here. you saw rizzo, you know what that's all about. you know what that's about all. the mob loved him. but you saw it too. >> i saw it. it's superb. real mob bosses don't tweet. th...

United states whether overt or covert, they are unconstrained by our laws. >> imagine this whistle-blower listen to the president of the united states talk like that, like a mob guy. >> sttd -- the president is talking like a mob family. i've been told he's a partisan, he's a high level intelligence official, he's someone known to the president. >> he's telling the truth, he must be a partisan. still ahead, you guys have more outrage than the whole democratic half of the house. still ahead, what donald trump learned about fighting dirty from his ruthless mentor, roy cohn. wait till you catch...

>> imagine this whistle-blower listen to the president of the united states talk like that, like a mob guy. >> he talks about that this person -- i've been told he's a partisan, he's a high level intelligence official, he's someone known to the president. >> he's telling the truth, he must be a partisan. still ahead, you guys have more outrage than the whole democratic hafr democratic half of the house. what donald trump learned about fighting dirty from his ruthness mentor roy cohn. stay with us. mentor roy cohn. stay with us panera's new warm grain bowls are full of good.

Five, six, seven years. that changes people -- >> swohe swore he would never testify against the president. he's not italian. he's not a mob guy. >> half the guys weren't italian. they opened up their doors, the chicago mob had polish folks and jewish folks. here they had a whole collection -- >> plenty of desperates. they didn't have to all be italian. phil, what i think is most likely with roger stone -- not that it's a problem, but you have to look at the materiality of it. what was he lying about? it seems most logical what he was lying about is who he talked to and what he knew and whethe...

He's not new to the game. he's not italian. he's not a mob guy. >> half the guys weren't italian. i worked in chicago. they opened up their doors, the chicago mob had polish folks and jewish folks. here they had a whole collection -- >> plenty of desperates. they didn't have to all be italian. phil, what i think is most likely with roger stone -- not that it's a problem, but you have to look at the materiality of it. what was he lying about? it seems most logical what he was lying about is who he talked to and what he knew and whether or not he told the president the same. in terms of him help...