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Failed to push back against revelations in july that mr. co help had recorded a conversation with mr. trump discussing the mcdougal payment. the recording seemed to support the notion that ami was complicit in an illegal campaign finance scheme. it's true we heard everything in that recording, i'm going to get the papers, i'm going to get the papers. it sounded like a mob recording to me. tell me the story in your past about david pecker and ami and how that forms your opinion, and does this sound like kind of a vendetta from pecker about trump? >> i can tell you this. when you base your relat...

Mcdougal payment. the recording seemed to support the notion that ami was complicit in an illegal campaign finance scheme. it's true we heard everything in that recording, i'm going to get the papers, i'm going to get the papers. it sounded like a mob recording to me. tell me the story in your past about david pecker and ami and how that forms your opinion, and does this sound like kind of a vendetta from pecker about trump? >> i can tell you this. when you base your relationship with someone whose entire universe is his own self-interest, that loyalty gets very short when he doesn't support y...

One associate of mr. pecker's speak on the condition of anonymity, felt betrayed when the president's legal team failed to push back against revelations in july that mr. co help had recorded a conversation with mr. trump discussing the mcdougal payment. the recording seemed to support the notion that ami was complicit in an illegal campaign finance scheme. there's so many ways to react. first of all, that recording was leaked to the media from cohen's legal team. second of all, it's true. it involves everything. we hear everything on that recording but i'm going to get the papers, i'm going to...