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You look at that code. you are a lawyer. if you had a case like this brought before you, would you think there is a case here? >> no. there are a couple problems with the case. extortion is -- you think of it in terms of a mob shake down. it's a threat of harm coming to you in the future. this gets more subtle because this is not that the president will hurt scarbrough. this is he will not make a phone call to stop one of his friends from hurting scarbrough. >> that's not exactly a giant intellectual leap there. >> this is why there are lawyers in the world. this is a very technical legal defe...