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>> i think much greater. i would never have denied his nomination on the basis of either his judicial performance in front of the committee or the allegations against him. even though they may very well have some or more than some truth. i think it's all about process. and i think the process failed. i think all americans lost. the a.c.l.u. big losers, democrats big losers. i'm not sure how the republicans emerge from this. i think president trump was a loser when he made the statements he made, a mocking ford. she didn't deserve that. but it shouldn't have influenced and apparently didn't inf...

Problem. first read today puts out a piece that says no matter what happens, pretty much everyone involved in the kavanaugh confirmation has been damaged. do you agree with that? >> it's possible. you know, i guess about how you measure damage. i mean, donald trump has put himself out there. he's done a lot of things that people thought would be damaging to him. and he keeps tick right along. so, you know, i think brett kavanaugh himself, if he is con firmed to the court, has definitely been damaged by this, which is the most important thing, the thing that tim was talking about in terms of th...