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Generating the bulk of contemporary terrorism. if you had come in from mars you could be forgiven for thinking that iran was the originator of al qaeda and isis and all of the other groups. the answer is, it's not. the saudis, it's come out of saudi arabia. a lot of recruits. saudi money, saudi preachers and religious schools have had a terrible effect, not just in the middle east, but in the entire islamic world, and in some cases in the united states. that was missing. the reason to talk about those issues, again, not to make points that we want to make saudi arabia switzerland. if we have a...

Government, as you say, has pirates. but it also has radical islam. and you know, explain to -- did you understand why radical islam was able to spread into somalia, spending time there? >> that's a good we. we have the knee-jerk reaction to these places. and we see them as a threat. but in somalia, the world abandoned somalia for many years. the u.s. tried to go in and help in the early 1990s and there was the blackhawk down incident. and that left a bad taste in our mouths that we didn't want anything to do with somalia. and in the intervening years, the radical islamic group came to power b...

Materially days. an they were open to meeting with the american journalists and negotiating with the american government and the u.s. government slammed the door in their face. they were turning to islam for a practical reason, which was somalia is divided between clans. and the clans have been tearing up the country and fighting with etch other. and the islamists said, let's find something that unifies us. and that was their religion. >> what gives you hope about africa? >> i think the fact that people work really hard. i think the gap is closing with the rest of the world. and the world is m...

Of terrorism, 94% of deaths by islamic terrorism were perpetrated by isis, al qaeda and other sunni jihadists. iran is fighting those groups, not fueling them. almost terror attack in the west has had some connection to saudi arabia. none has been directly linked to iran. trump has adopted the saudi line on terrorism, which deflects any blame of the kingdom and redirects it towards iran. they have tensions, arms deals and a world bank fund for women that ivanka trump is championing. even though trump demanded in 2016 that the clinton foundation return money from the saudis who, quote, want wom...

Messages, for the actions, the things that are being done in the name of that religion. >> i think you're right. and i think part of that conversation is also domestically celebrating moderate islam, reminding american people that the two are not equated. there has been a massive rise in anti-islam sentiment in the united states that is very disturbing. thing the fact that we can say there's moderate islam and peaceful islam is something we have to work on. >> you're totally right. they have to police themselves, islam. america needs to stop looking at islam as the enemy. it's a small part. >>...