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Otherwise of them to america's national security. i mean, what struck me about those hearings most of all is we heard a lot about the legality or otherwise of striking american citizens. about how much information congress was having or not having. but we didn't have -- what i'm hearing from national security people is that there is a concern about the drone strikes are not actually in america's long-term political interest in areas of the world like pakistan and yemen. we are turning large numbers of moderate pointis, journalists, doctors, lawyers, the kind of people that shape policy in thos...

Informed is you then have some responsibility for the policy that's happening. we are now starting to have a discussion about the drone strikes and the benefits and otherwise of them to america's national security. i mean, what struck me about those hearings most of all is we heard a lot about the legality or otherwise of striking american citizens. about how much information congress was having or not having. but we didn't have -- what i'm hearing from national security people is that there is a concern about the drone strikes are not actually in america's long-term political interest in area...