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You hear about run, hide and fight, that grabbed a lot of people's attention last night and this morning. that's a protocol. that's something fema and homeland security have recommended to schools across the country. we're at a point in society where there is a protocol for a kid, whether they're on the campus of michigan state or a first grader in a classroom somewhere, that your first option is to run, get out of the building. second option is to hide from the shooter. third, you're doing your homework in the library of michigan state. you have to be ready to fight, confront the guy with a g...

Shot at school or their kids' friends being shot dead at school. >> right. here we are, five years after parkland, and think about those families who lost children, continue to lose children. we see people continuing to lose children. jen palmieri, as you know, we've had, through the years, heated debates about republicans and democrats. i go after democrats as much as i go after republicans because -- in a lot of issues. because there are multiple sides to most issues out there. two sides to a lot of policy issues, and it is good to have the back and forth. there's not two sides here. it is t...

You know, again, you look at the fetishness that the far right has become fixated on for hyper, hyper individual rights that go far beyond anything that our founding fathers ever expected. what it does is, this is exactly -- it is a country, again, that's completely blown out the balance of what our founders intended. there were supposed to be responsibilities that went along with rights. obligations that went along with liberties. there's none of that now. it's one of the things that richard haass writes about in his book, "the bill of obligations." again, this fetishness for this hyper, hype...

We did it after pearl harbor. we did it after, as i said before, the birmingham church bombing. that's when that woke a lot of white, so-called moderates up, to get behind the civil rights movement. it's what we did after september 11th. what if democrats were talking about islamic terrorism after september 11th the way republicans talk about students being gunned down, their own children having to go through the type of drills that you were talking about. you know, sheltering, covering, you know, sending kids off to college and them being, like, gunned down in gunfire. again, i ask this quest...