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To put her name out was a mistake. i think it was wrong to reveal that we were listening in on osamba bin laden's communications. i believe senator shelby of alabama was a factor in that. i think it was wrong for condoleezza rice to confirm we had a mole up next to osamba bin laden. not good for the double agent se's health. and it could be that some of these things, i would agree and others would say shouldn't have been put out. but that remains to be seen. the fact is that when it comes to judgment as to what should be secret and what should not be secret, julian assange's judgment has been ...

Think unfortunately the government has a tendency to classify things not to prevent americans from being in harm's way, but to prevent embarrassment for themselves. i think that's the issue here. but obviously there's operations going on, missions that you would never want to reveal, at least not while it's happening. >> larry: you agree, daniel? certain secret things are secret? >> i certainly -- i agree that there are things that should be kept secret. i think it was wrong for the bush administration to reveal the name of valerie plame, the covert operator working against proliferation, work...