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Legislatures who are watering down the consequences for crime. the prosecutors that have been put into place that essentially do everything that they can to molly coddle the criminal and care nothing about the victim. then we're talking about the people. look at some of the stores that have been closing their doors in major cities. who is victimized there? it's the old -- elderly people and those that can only walk so far. the city and the state have failed to protect them. this is really what is happening. >> jackie: it's a huge problem. we'll discuss it again in 2022. happy new year to you, ...

Ma made it to their destination. maybe they wouldn't get near the living presidents but if they went off, people were going to die. at the hands of a domestic terror -- or whatever, we don't know if it's domestic or not. at the hands of a terrorist. >> at the hands of a terrorist. we're in the middle of a terrorist intimidation campaign. if those devices are nonfunctional, it's an intimidation campaign. it's having the effect. it is impacting the nation. which is what the intent of this bomber was. we cannot, you know, molly coddle this or downplay it. we have a whole bunch of people calling t...