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It's very difficult for them people. >> people react differently. john kerry had the senate to fall back on. john mccain had the senator to fall back on. with mitt romney he has no senate necessarily to fall back on. >> i've spoken with john carry and john mccain a while book. it wasn't an easy transition for them you go back to the senate and you're one of 100. the flip side, living under the microscope isn't what it's cracked up to be. it could be quite difficult. >> the ann romney usually more candid in these kinds of conversations than her husband? >> she is a more can did person. she's no...

Mr. romney, that those who are evangelical piusists will in any way concede the legitimacy of the more mon faith. on top of that, santorum seems to be charging with a full head of steam and also got more enthusiasm. has anybody looked lessenthus yas tick about being the front-runner than mitt romney? >> his wife looks pretty unenthusiastic on most occasions. >> i'll leave that to them to decide domestically. the reality is that, of course, rick santorum does prove to be a serious problem here. and as both guests have indicated, he's not going away jentsly into that night but he's raging agains...