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Aliena alienate, that it would upset women and it couldn't -- if you lead -- and here's the other thing. if you lead with that, it wouldn't have appeased the church groups. they still would have been upset and then all of a sudden your point of compromise is where? then you're shifting on the message. >> the grace period was not to find a compromise as i understand it, it was a grace period where they had a chance to implement the -- >> oh, no, my understanding and before -- >> that's not what the reporting is showing. >> before the fire storm, the grace period is to work out a compromise, to ...

>> it is a parallel too. >> because you're trying to make it about medicine. you're trying to make it about one particular thing. what i -- what i'm saying is the crux of this is, this is a first amendment issue where the federal government is stepping in and telling a religious institution what to do. willie? >> well, joe, you've put your finger on why this is a great issue for republicans, not just a social issue, but if you listen to what john cornyn said yesterday. this highlights the disconnect between president obama and his concept about the role of the federal government and its intrus...

Suburban women. they think ultimately they admit -- you talk to some folks -- they admit they weren't very good at it, but they think ultimately they will win this on point. >> and in the long run, suburban -- >> white catholic men haven't been for democrats in a long time. >> yeah. >> in the long run they believe that in the philadelphia suburbs, i-4 corridor in florida, all these swing districts, there'll be suburban women that will be scared -- >> more sympathetic. >> can i just -- i just want to ask if what everybody here thinks this is about. i'll tell you what i think it's about. i think...

He's probably got the biggest burden of the four of them. >> michael steele, good to see you again, buddy. >> hey, chairman, good to see you. >> on that point, you know, okay, setting mitt aside, you've now got santorum and din grich that are really kind of defining their own turf. how do you -- is it reflective of what we've seen around the country from the grass roots and the base? or is it something different. are they more concerned, less concerned? what's the general mood coming into this event for the next couple of days? >> well, listen, i heard your comments earlier about the hhs decis...

People who they thought were accounted for, that number is firm. what we're struggling with right now is how serious are the injuries of the one person who's been reported injured. and so those are just two points i kind of wanted to clarify as information's coming in. department of homeland security is the point on this right now, and it really speaks to a couple of issues, the severity of it, obviously, and also just the whole idea of national security because you've got stop deployment in that -- so much deployment in that area of resources. you mentioned the coast guard, but they've deploy...