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If he didn't know about it, what does that say? >> eric: the white house is that president trump just learned about it a few days ago. if he didn't know about it -- first of all, collusion to what and? doesn't there have to be in exchange of a thing of value, monetary value? >> collusion itself, it is not itself illegal, but the point is, unfortunately, the president's son, i think there was no malpractice here on paul manafort's part, because somebody has to be protecting the family and these campaigns. that doesn't seem to have happened. >> eric: you're allowed to meet with foreign nationals...

If he didn't know about it, what does that say? >> eric: the white house is that president trump just learned about it a few days ago. if he didn't know about it -- first of all, collusion to what and? doesn't there have to be in exchange of a thing of value, monetary value? >> collusion itself, it is not itself illegal, but the point is, unfortunately, the president's son, i think there was no malpractice here on paul manafort's part, because somebody has to be protecting the family and these campaigns. that doesn't seem to have happened. >> eric: you're allowed to meet with foreign nationals...

>> the investigation, taking a year. what is that about? >> you juxtapose that with the payment of $5 million to the family in april. keep in mind, the family hadn't even filed a lawsuit. so the police had enough, the city of chicago had enough information at their disposal in april to say this case has a value, a monetary value, a federal civil rights lawsuit likely to be filed but had not been filed. but from their own assessment, they had enough evidence that they had reviewed to determine that it had a value of $5 million. and offered that payment to the family before a lawsuit was even fi...

>> the credit card debt is monumental. we have a small home equity loan that this potentially could pay of off. >> patrick notices an auction house is holding an appraisal fair in birmingham. >> i thought i'll throw a box of stuff together and see if anything is worth anything. >> at the fair, patrick cautiously breaks out the old family war stuff. did you feel like one would be worth more than the others? >> i thought the muster book was going to be of more significant monetary value. as it turned out, he says he thinks the muster book would be a couple thousand dollars and i thought, well th...

The shot of the day, golfer, james han, his shot rolls back in the hole. he gets a birdie and then he gets a chest bump. got to get that z very milli vanilliesque. the west is finally getting some seriously needed drought relief. a severe snow system dropped a blanket of snow over oregon. the snow created treacherous driving conditions on interstate 5 resulting in a 20-car pileup. nbc's bill karins is here to talk about all this. it seems like they don't get enough and then, of course, it comes too much. they are celebrating. they are calling this rainfall in terms of monetary value, it coul...