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- jaclyn: right. - harvey: ...and you end up a mogul. how did you learn business? well, i always-- certainly, when i took on kmart, it was not a job or for financial gain. i saw a need that needed to be filled, and that was to give fashion in the mass market. my mother wanted to be a dress designer. she didn't do it, but she always designed for me, and we did it together, and i thought, "hmm, this is gonna be interesting." nah, come on, this has to have some money angle. well, it ended up having the money angle. but you had to know that going in. no, i didn't. just like you say, "did you think...

- jaclyn: right. - harvey: ...and you end up a mogul. how did you learn business? well, i always-- certainly, when i took on kmart, it was not a job or for financial gain. i saw a need that needed to be filled, and that was to give fashion in the mass market. my mother wanted to be a dress designer. she didn't do it, but she always designed for me, and we did it together, and i thought, "hmm, this is gonna be interesting." nah, come on, this has to have some money angle. well, it ended up having the money angle. but you had to know that going in. no, i didn't. just like you say, "did you think...

Sort of rational, above board explanation for what was going on here. i think it speaks to the depth and the sophistication of this campaign, that a guy like john bolton, an active nra member, got roped into this. their tentacles are going this far, that we now have the second national security adviser to have these mysterious ties to this -- to these russians. this speaks to the depth of this campaign. and we should also talk about the money angle, which is that the fbi, according to mcclatchy, is investigating whether torshin funneled money illegally through the nra to support the trump camp...

Guy as a messenger to get information directly to putin. >> this is bringing together so many threads from this investigation. you've got this elusive meeting in the seychelles, the money angle, which is huge, and then what i call a fourth dimension here, which is the effect of money flowing into this administration through foreign sources potentially influencing policy, because there's whole other dimension here of why this administration has taken some of the public positions it has, for instance on qatar. so this i think is a really important development in this investigation. and also on t...

Like to see come out of that testimony that occurs next week the president's son and the cheryl of the campaign? with all the russian entanglement, has the virgin forest here. >> that's why it is fraught with peril duflt see the time stamp on the recordings that you just played? that was right around the time when paul manafort was bending the ear of the trumps. donald trump jr. has been making statements to tv hosts that have been proven wrong. here eeld be under oath talking on very savvy lawmakers who know the facts and will get him on the record on a host of issues, including the one most ...