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Is because i couldn't help notice the fundraising pitches that went out at the same time. >> look, i think that with most things if not everything with donald trump there is some money component involved. i think that's definitely a piece of it. i think the other piece is that this is frankly something of a distraction that he's trying to set up after his company was indicted last week by the manhattan district attorney and as his cfo was indicted by the manhattan district attorney. this is a go-to move of his going back to the early 1970s. if you get sued or in some legal trouble, you counter...

Ransomware attackers to operate freely. >> my friend tony likes to say there are no problems that can't be solved with money. there is always a money component, perhaps. the final question is this. the white house put out a memo to business executives essentially saying, hey, you better get your act together, too. i guess ultimately who is in charge of protecting us? the government or a private business? i understand i have some expectation, but at the end of the day, what can a business do that's greater than a government in protecting our privacy online or our finances? >> that's a good ques...

Decisions have a money component. some small, some big, but that money component you want to save. that's your first instinct. >> very first bullet there i get a rush from saving. >> yeah. >> i do. i bet you don't even like do you have savings important but also if somebody else has savings and gets a good deal you are excited. >> i love the good deal. >> not me i pay retail for everything. >> absolutely. turns out i'm a spender. never gotten a deal in my life. >> spender risk take everywhere. that's exactly what i am too. that's kind of fun. >> kind of fun. [ laughter ] >> it can be hard to b...

Action is the public one, priorities usa itself is the secret money component. >> so, so -- there's a black hole there, a bigger one on the gop side. is there anything being done to close this up so that we do have that sort of transparency? >> no, the s.e.c. has made a meager attempt writing a letter to crossroads saying, look, we want you to report and disclose the 501 -- the nonprofit secret money arm and crossroads has simply said noway, we're not going to do it and they believe as a result of the supreme court and other judicial rulings they're on firm legal ground without an aggressive s...

>> bill: that's what they are trying to brand us. i do think this there is a huge money component in that there is billions of dollars to be made. >> they are losing it. >> bill: both nbc and abc they are fanned out. >> they did a bond issue. you can read it they are not as profitable now way less profitable now than they were four years ago. >> bill: charles, thank you very much. plenty more as the factor moves along this evening. how did three killers escape from arizona prison perhaps murdering arizona couple after the breakout? nancy grace will tell us. flight attendant on jetblue goes biz...