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Is this republicans saying nevermind? >> no, those are the facts ignoring that this is going to grow the economy. >> how do you know that? you look at history, that hasn't been the case. >> you go back to the reagan tax cuts. government revenue was higher after the tax cuts than it was the year that the taxes were cut. you had 15 million jobs created per capita. >> the debt was way higher. >> that was not a revenue problem. >> it's a money problem. >> we can control the spending if you keep republicans in control. you'll control the spending. but this is coming down to the fact you're going to...

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>> yesterday eric shinseki resigned and that did not come as a big surprise to anybody. the first thing is the replacement and interim sloan gibson. good idea? >> somebody needed to move in. sloan is a good man and he will at least in the interim period start the process that needs to be done. there is a lot of confidence that needs to be restored in the department of veterans affairs and i think he can get that started and i talked to him after the president made the announcement and he would transfer the aggravation and anger as to the way the department acted. he will deputy a long way to g...

Have conversations with adults on my show about the notion of education funding. and i've had folks push back and say, we spend more than anyone else, we spend tons of money on education. how could it possibly be a money problem? how would you respond to that? >> well, obviously, it's not their main priority, even if they do spend a lot of money, they might not spend enough, or they might be taking money from it. for instance, our governor, he took about $1 billion from public education statewide and, meanwhile, philadelphia itself, has a $300 million deficit, and he's failing to give us the m...

Judge. the jury is not involved in that process whatsoever. now, we should tell you that there is a possibility of an appeal here. we understand that that would not come until after the sentencing. his defense team not releasing any form of an official statement today after the verdict indicating whether or not they would, in fact, go that route in this case, shep. >> shepard: casey stegall on scene. he's reported, dr. murray could face four years behind bars. how much time will he actually serve? that's another matter. just this weekend the troubled actress lind local lindsay lohan went to ja...