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Smart and he makes it pretty simple there. it's geography. i think he's right. joy? >> i think that's true in the actual governing of the country. look, we're in a post-governing phase of the american history. the republican party is no longer coming to washington to govern. they've come to serve this ideology they feel if it's not the majority should be and they want to dominate the country. if you think about chris christie's actual prospects, the nuts and bolts of winning a campaign, could he win new hampshire? sure. could he win south carolina, no. he could probably win florida. he does ha...

Difference is between moderate democrats and liberal democrats are a lot more subtle. a lot of very wealthy democrats are socially liberal. in the republican party, there are serious differences between the money wing of the party, which karl rove represents, and the far right, but the money people have been content to use the far right and they really have put one over on them for a long time. they only want their energy at election time. they want nothing to do with having abortion banned and all these other things. they've just been using them and now the gig is up. >> i think that's a fant...

Behind. she's seen as a big government conservative to people who care about the fiscal issues. when rick santorum is truly being rick santorum, this is what he truly believes in his gut. he thinks that the country should be govened by a set of religious values and he forgets that the people in the room applauding believes that too, but he forget he's talking to an entire country that likes women to have jobs and birth control and have a life outside of marriage. >> too far right at this point? >> i think there are three republican parties. there's the sort of elite, sort of money wing of the ...

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