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For opposition. >> how long is an air traffic controller in training? >> it depends on if he's in the tower involvement, if it's busy, a place like chicago oral los angeles, he could be training anywhere from one year to two years. if it's in albany, new york, it could be six months. if he's in the center environment, higher altitude, cleveland, it could be two to three years. you don't just hire somebody and they walk in and take over. >> that's what i wanted to ask. how much latitude and independence do trainees have? is it an occasional check in? >> absolutely. trainees are watched at all t...

New book. this appears to be operator error from the air traffic controller who was in training. he had someone with him. how does that work if a trainee makes a mistake? >> it's still on the onus of the trainer to correct it and it's still his responsibility ultimately. the trainee is not going to suffer discipline consequences. in that sense, if you're looking at that, that is what is going to happen. in this situation, there is always going to be human involvement and when the human involvement occurs, there's always going to be a chance of mistake. the beautiful thing about it all, though,...