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but watch and i'll get you there. >> when you start turning around lawyers with the defendants that are defending the clients. we start to live in a fascist state. >> that is not much of a defense? ? >> he served as trump's attorney during the election. do you expect that he's going to vote the fifth amendment? or a sequel to argue attorney-client privilege as so many have done? >> i think is going to invoke any privilege he can pick up. realistically, has been told he's a target, he should. it'll be foolhardy to go in there and answer questions. i think he will try attorney-client p...

Problem from happening. we tried in american history, having tyrants or kids that were unchecked in their power, it did not work well. we tried to create government to put checks and rain in presidents. this is almost like a perfect test case of what happens when the president abuses of power that he actually does have, but is applying in an incorrect in inaccurate way. >> professor thank you very much, elliott thank you as well, according to law. this is what i was talking about the top of the show, talking about our critical democracy theory, giving people a one-on-one on where this goes and...