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Who knows what's going to happen in egypt? >> there is an argument, and i have heard this espoused by family members of mine who served with the british military in iraq and afghanistan. that it's a moot point whether iraq is necessarily a better place now for the iraqi people. there are still appalling outrages every day, there are bombings in baghdad all the time, killing tens, hundreds of people. the oppression is continuing in a different guise to many of them. you know, it is a moot point. it's hard to argue iraq has been a glorious victory. >> people would characterize it that way. i thi...

In iraq and afghanistan. that it's a moot point whether iraq is necessarily a better place now for the iraqi people. there are still appalling outrages every day, there are bombings in baghdad all the time, killing tens, hundreds of people. the oppression is continuing in a different guise to many of them. you know, it is a moot point. it's hard to argue iraq has been a glorious victory. >> people would characterize it that way. i think what they would say is the iraqi people have a chance for a much better future than they were living under. >> are they getting it? >> well, sure, there's a fr...

That it's a moot point whether iraq is necessarily a better place now for the iraqi people. there are still appalling outrages every day, there are bombings in baghdad all the time, killing tens, hundreds of people. the oppression is continuing in a different guise to many of them. you know, it is a moot point. it's hard to argue iraq has been a glorious victory. >> people would characterize it that way. i think what they would say is the iraqi people have a chance for a much better future than they were living under. >> are they getting it? >> well, sure, there's a free press. they have a par...