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This is -- these aren't my words. and so when we think about the virgin islands, completely ignored. >> completely. >> we hadn't said anything about the virgin islands. even puerto rico, thousands of people. do you remember initially he said, i need to talk to their leader. it's like, sweetheart, you are their leader. you are the president of the united states. they are part of the united states of america, they're american citizens. and he just does not see them as americans. >> not only does he not see them as americans -- and i lost -- i lived in the virgin islands right before the hurrican...

Incident, not for the transgression. because he is fundamentally without a moral core so he doesn't think about it in that sense. he thinks did my polls go up or down? were the pundits right or wrong? that's the way he thinks about it. it puts the white house in a terrible position. >> the white house put themselves in a terrible position. >> i'm saying the president put his white house in a terrible position. in this respect -- >> miss sadler put herself in this position. >> i'm not trying to get her off the hook. i'm getting to a particular point. she did a grotesque thing. the white house i...