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That is something the liberal judges have done as well. that's important. the court goes out of its way to say this doesn't impact other rights and the court made it clear. rather than going against the explicit text of that decision, let's talk about what the decision does. >> you're committed to not going after other rights afro, is that what you're saying? >> this decision -- >> is that a yes? >> michael isn't going to go after one thing or another. michael has a court to follow the constitution and laws are passed. if they pass laws, the courts need to follow them faithfully. if you want t...

America's men for one minute. imagine you do not have authority over your own body for ten months. it is barbaric, it is inhumane, it is unacceptable. and i hope every human being in this country understands that when you take away a woman's right to make her decisions about her health and well-being, she's no longer a full citizen. >> welcome back to "state of the union." i'm jake tapper. that democratic senator kirsten gillibrand of new york reacting to that leaked draft of the supreme court opinion on abortion. democrats have been warning about this possibility for decades, frankly. the que...

Resulted in mutilation or even death. now, mississippi, according to your state department of health, has about 3,500 abortions a year. has the state done any analysis of what the state thinks will happen to those women and girls if this law goes into effect, how many unwanted pregnancies will result in deliveries, how many will result in women and girls dying because they seek out unsafe methods? have you done an analysis that way? >> well, that's a great question, jake. and i really do appreciate it. and what i would say to you is this. not only have we done an analysis, we started doing the...

Not actually end abortion. it causes girls and women to seek out methods that are not as safe to end their pregnancies. methods that in the past resulted in mutilation or even death. now, mississippi, according to your state department of health, has about 3,500 abortions a year. has the state done any analysis of what the state thinks will happen to those women and girls if this law goes into effect, how many unwanted pregnancies will result in deliveries, how many will result in women and girls dying because they seek out unsafe methods? have you done an analysis that way? >> well, that's a ...

Fetuses that have fatal or very serious abnormalities, which is not really all that rare, to be honest. i know plenty of women that has happened to and they had to -- they wanted to have a healthy child but they weren't able to. and your law would force them to carry the child to term. i want to ask you a philosophical question here because i know you've said you believe life begins at conception. just to be clear, does that mean the moment of fertilization or the moment of implantation? >> i believe that life begins at conception. as i've said repeatedly, and i know where this question is ult...