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That is my view how we should intervene in the other countries. i think there is a belief that when the u.s. military takes action we have an obligation to do more than just destroy the regime that is threatening us. we have had this since the marshal plan. when we have an enemy, we go in an take them out. no insurgency. no morale building. no democracy promotion. i think we are dealing with a different society. i didn't see paul revere on a horse in tahrir square. and i think we lost a lot of blood and treasure unnecessarily after we could have taken him out and gotten the heck out. >> greg: ...

That is the cost at the soccer field at gitmo. fred? >> gosh. what a ridiculous expenditure. they are having a game. how would you like to be the referee? >> yes, the department of defense say they need this for moral purposes and the high cost to ship every item in. hard to get things in the particular area. why didn't they build it themselves? that would be morale building. >> bret: the administration wants to close gitmo as fast as it can, this is -- >> they don't want to close it. they're offering ferret venue for the world cup. >> bret: next stop pick, more steerous. the prime minister is...

Into wars but your thoughts about this president. is this president now in charge? >> i think he really is. he overruled secretary gates twice on two big operations. libya and the bin laden raid. >> they didn't want to go in? they didn't want to lead from behind. >> gates did not want to go into libya and with bin laden he wanted to do a missile strike. >> a missile strike would have probably left us with the same result except politically, we wouldn't have known it was him. >> it could have been dangerous to have a missile strike that deep into pakistan. >> and how could you have proven it? h...