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Tillerson's closest allies like bob corker say they need more answers, that they want him to promote pore people, they want to fill more positions, they want to keep those senior levels of the foreign service. now the numbers don't necessarily right now indicate any kind of mass exodus, although a lot of people at the senior ranks have left, but i think that there is really a morale problem at the state department, erica. a lot of people don't feel secretary tillerson appreciates that long-time experience. he has a little bit more of an insular and this whole distrustful attitude of long-time ...

Of that, $60,000 alone on golf cart rentals, think of those secret service agents following the president around on his golf rounds. this applies to his children's trips as well. eric trump went to uruguay a short time ago. and just on hotels, the bill for the secret service there, $100,000. if the secret service cannot pay these agents for the rest of the year because of this budget going over the top what do they do? >> well, it becomes a morale issue. so you have to address the morale before you can travel and do your job, you have to have that type of attitude where you're not worried abou...

President trump inherited a situation that is dire. this is more serious and complex than it was in more and any time in the last 75 years. thank you for joining us this morning. what do you think, that this is to blame on the past administration? >> we lost a large number of good troops, and we lost the current political climate to fight this war. the fact is, it was a morale issue. when you have the united states military doing things like nationbuilding, the u.s. military's job is to go after bad guys. not nationbuilding. when you put them to a task, you lose morale and motivation. you lose...

It could be hard to recruit. it lets everybody knows to include our adversaries the quick reactions of those in the field is picked up considerably because you don't have to run things by the white house before you decide what you'll have for lunch. >> shannon: i know personally some really good folks who left the military over the last couple of years because they felt like it was a morale issue that they were being micromanaged. any decision or choice they tried to make was triple second guessed and they left and went into the private sector. do you think we can make up a lot of what's happe...

Intelligence community credibility both in the united states with americans, it undermines it with our allies. and it undermines it, i think more importantly, with our adversaries who use those statements to put out propaganda in their own nations. and then at home, the morale issue, it's so important that these people are sacrificing their lives, dedicating themselves to keeping america safe. and when they're challenged in a public forum, in a way that is -- appears to be critical, i think that really hurts. and it's not helpful, brian. >> katy tur, controversial story where you are the presi...