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Was more striking than i've ever seen. >> wow. we want to get to the political ramifications of all of this in just a moment, but first, the legalities. danny savalas, barbara mcquade and go through each of you. jonathan turley, scale of one to ten, how bad is this for the president and what are the possibilities? >> well, it couldn't be worse, and i have to say, i'm not as convinced about this new morality play featuring michael cohen. this idea that he's suddenly liberated in the sense he's going to tell the truth. it doesn't fit with the indictment. look at the first six counts. he's a felo...

Uncertainty, it is hard to govern. do you think that is a wise strategy? i guess some would argue that it is giving comey's book more oxygen although it does fit the narrative that the president has been trying to do for a long time which is erode confidence in the fbi and in the department of justice. that whatever mueller comes up with, this is this tainted organization. >> i agree with that. i have respect for jim comey as a public servant. i think he served the public with integrity. but he seems to see himself as the central character in this ongoing morality play.

>> he was never a morality play, not even for people who make morality their cause. even the evangelicals with their political history of what they find intolerant, the idea of giving him a mulligan or a thousand mulligans, whatever, they bought into not buying into him as a person. you have to look at the next level of significance which is lying is troubling for a presidency. on that level, sarah huckabee sanders yesterday saying this. >> the president has addressed these directly and made very well clear that flon of these allegations are true. this case has already been won in arbitration,...

>> tom shillue: is it the trouble to the resistence or to other conservatives. you're no fan. >> his trouble is the economy, his trouble is the world, his trouble is the fact that it's a hard job and solutions are a lot more complicated than he let on. his struggle is he's got to build a wall now. his trouble is all the stuff the bed he made for him. that's not something the kennedy school of government is going to have any affect on or twister or fox news or ms nba c his trouble is actually reality. >> i don't disagree with rob actually. >> tom shillue: see, this is what we're doing. >> let m...

Trouble to the resistence or to other conservatives. you're no fan. >> his trouble is the economy, his trouble is the world, his trouble is the fact that it's a hard job and solutions are a lot more complicated than he let on. his struggle is he's got to build a wall now. his trouble is all the stuff the bed he made for him. that's not something the kennedy school of government is going to have any affect on or twister or fox news or ms nba c his trouble is actually reality. >> i don't disagree with rob actually. >> tom shillue: see, this is what we're doing. >> let me rephrase it, then. >> it...