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Parties from interactions with north korea. first, david, just on rex tillerson and the bizarre last couple of months starting with the, you know, moron comment directed toward the president. what do you make of him and his appearance and where we are today? >> starting with that and culminating last week his spokesperson indicating that there was indeed a problem with morale there at the state department. so, yes, there is the fascination to watch the secretary of state who does not seem all that close to the president he serves in the briefing room speaking there from the white house, but i ...

Administration, old role that i don't think he takes lightly or one that i don't that you wanted in the first place. there is a "peace a while ago about how he doesn't talk to former chiefs of staff. he is the first one that was not part of that club. he wants to go about his business and get a tough job done. i think what happened is similar with tillerson after the comment which i think was totally a moron comment from what he said is that the president of the united states of america marches these guys out there and make something for their supper. >> come on now. the idea that john kelly i...

Scenes palace intrigue that always goes along with the white house and he acknowledged today it's an unconventional president trump in some of the ways that he responds with tweeting and so forth, and forcing actions based on some of the choices the president makes. and tillerson just trying to close the door on what was for him a difficult few days when that story first broke. alex. >> sure was. okay, thank you so much from the white house. joining me now, josh dawsey, white house reporter for politico, and erin mcpike. big welcome to you both. josh, before we talk policy, i want to get you...

Is that he thinks very carefully before he speaks and chooses his words quite carefully, at least in public. at least in front of reporters. as far as the moron comment, i think it's pretty clear to everyone that of course he said it. and the reason he's deflecting the way he is is because the thing that i did hear from a number of people around tillerson when i was traveling on that trip is that he is an eagle scout. they really wanted me to write about the fact that he is an eagle scout, which means of course, that he doesn't want to lie. that's why he's deflecting. it's clear that he said i...

Country which he is continuing now and being part of this administration, old role that i don't think he takes lightly or one that i don't that you wanted in the first place. there is a "peace a while ago about how he doesn't talk to former chiefs of staff. he is the first one that was not part of that club. he wants to go about his business and get a tough job done. i think what happened is similar with tillerson after the comment which i think was totally a moron comment from what he said is that the president of the united states of america marches these guys out there and make something fo...