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They will have another meeting on friday. what took place yesterday was fascinating because this president does things like nobody else. for example, bring in the cameras and i will freelance for a while then i will go to the situation room and try to end a shutdown. ainsley: in december we saw him with the cameras with nancy pelosi and chuck schumer. brian: that went well. ainsley: this time no cameras or cell phones aloud. it ended without any progress people say. democrats interrupted. they agreed to reconvene on friday and the president said let's make a deal. democrats said nothing for th...

Her. so she had to say zero. i'm going to give you zero money for the wall, mr. president. but the president says i want money for a wall. and he thinks that's what america wants. >> as long as it takes, i mean, look, i'm prepared, i think the people of the country think i'm right. i think the people of this country think i'm right. again, i could have done nothing. i could have had a lot easier presidency by doing nothing. but, i'm here. i want to do it right. brian: evidently during the meeting kirstjen nielsen was on skype i imagine or face time. i'm not sure which, but she said hey, first ...

Thank you very much. >> thank you. steve: we are in day 13 of the government shutdown. democrats are not budging on president trump's request for wall money. but neither is the president. jason chaffetz says if they won't spend $5 billion on a wall, they should spend 25 billion on border security. he will explain that idea next. plus, we have shown you the pictures of police department grieving about a burned krispy kreme doughnut truck. there is a sweet ending to this story and it's coming up ♪ to be loved by you ♪ how sweet it is ♪ to be loved by you ♪ it's time for our lowest prices...

They can't define what border security is to say they want more drones. i have been down to the border. i have seen it drones can't fly about half the time because of the weather down on the border. that is a very naive answer. and exemplifies from the fact that when they went into the oval office or went into the white house in the situation room they cut off the homeland security secretary wouldn't even let her give a briefing. there are things. if i was the president i would say really we are not going to do 5 billion for the wall? then let's go back to the $25 billion to actually secure th...

Government hostage to my campaign promise that i was going to build a wall and that mexico was going to pay for it. that is so ridiculous. steve: i don't know if she answered the question. brian: kellyanne conway with us right now. she is a counselor to the president. i don't know if she has a chance to watch the interview with the future speaker of the house. steve: let's hope not. she should be watching this channel. brian: kellyanne, is it ridiculous that the president is holding the government hostage? >> >> well, the president is not. in fact, the president invited the 8 leaders from the ...