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Laws. >> can you imagine? >> the other point is are they going to go with a buyback program at some point? that is something that kamala i very passionate about we know that guns are not the problem. their weapons and their guns, and quite frankly, what we're seeing in the blue states is th fact that they have the most restrictions yet we see the mos violence in these states and in the cities. >> don't think a criminal has ever walked up to a buyback program and said here is my gun coming here here's my home address. caitlin, crime in california is pretty bad. how would you address that that's...

Am supposed to seek asylum in the first safe country i come to? >> my friend, we all know the united states is today the most powerful nation in the world. it is the dream of many, many people who are just trying to get out of dire poverty,os violence, to be able to reach the united states and to be a blessing, as they are the immigrants to this nation. t that's the dream. they are coming to the united states, and they are seeking asylum. they are not invading. and it's such a small number. we are talking about 10,000, 12,000 total. >> mark: wait a minute --is you are now saying that a dream i...