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The time it makes perfect season. that's why i'm saying i don't think it court is going to get to that. there are two different definitions for spinoff and sequel. she won't be able to recover. that's the point. he was not somebody entitled to make this second movie. they had no obligation to him. therefore, how can he have her bound in when he wasn't even bound in. they weren't bound to him. megyn: let's say this gets past motion practice. what jury -- she has already gotten $45 million plus another $6 million. she is over $50 million for being the ex-mrs. michael douglas. what jury would wan...

Be thrown out on the papers. >> she said i need more information. megyn: this is a good development for the obama administration. >> it isn't good or bad it's neutral. megyn: it's kind of lost for the obama administration. >> it's neutral. >> you know what you're good when i was practicing law if i came home to a client and said i know you wanted me to get this case dismissed, i didn't do it it's going to go forward, it's going to be litigated, there's going to be depositions, there is going to be motion practice, but it's neutral, it's not really a law. >> it sounds to me like you want to dan...

Michael jackson died. along the way has been the back and forth legal wrangle of conrad murray. let's find out from our legal guys who join us every saturday. richard herman is in new york and avery is joining us from washington. good to see you. >> nice to see you. >> hey, fred. >> where are we with this? when does this case actually go to court? >> this is probably a year away, fred. it will be delayed. there will be more motion practice in the case and yet, on the one year anniversary michael's dear, loving dad decided to file a civil wrongful death case against dr. murray. i don't think he...

>> but this whole notion, paul, have you watched ac360 lately with these lawyers screaming at each other and calling each other thugs? how are they supposed to hash this out? >> i'm surprised they all haven't been held in contempt of court by the federal judge handling this investigation. i've never seen attorneys fighting on television with jeffrey toobin acting as referee. this meet and confer requirement is whenever you do something major in a federal case, you're supposed to sit down with your adversary, have a conference and try to work it out so you don't have to go to the judge. but obv...