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All In With Chris Hayes

do you think that's what -- driving this? >> i think partially that and also a view that to the extent that meadows has any shot at getting rid of the case on motion practice, it's going to happen in a federal court and not a state court. why? >> stop one second. what do you mean by that? >> brian meadows is going to ask a judge, in a written brief, to get rid of the case, eject the case because under the federal constitution and the supremacy clause clause in particular, he's gonna say that he's immune. as a federal officer acting under color of law, it's unconstitutional for a state prosecutor to go after him. and he thinks that motion has a better chance of succeeding in federal court. i agree with you that the jury pool is probably driving him as well, but i'm with you. watch the e. jean carroll case, where a juror who had minister who listened to -- a far-right podcast, or sat on that jury and yet was one of the people who agreed that donald trump had defamed e. jean carroll and sexually

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All In With Chris Hayes

that terwilliger lets him take the stand. they must have made the calculus that being in federal court were so important to them that it was worth basically playing the play and taking the shot no one thought you could make. >> one thought is a jury. paul fulton county is different from, i think there are nine counties across northern georgia? a totally different universe. i'm on the record of the show, and i want to maintain this, i have faith in americans. i really do. so i think this idea of oh, it's a florida palm beach, the julie jury pool, when lindsey graham says you can't try him in washington d. c.. personally i think, i'm willing to put my faith in americans of all different stripes. do you think that's what -- driving this? >> i think partially that and also a view that to the extent that meadows has any shot at getting rid of the case on motion practice, it's going to happen in a federal court and not a state court. why? >> stop one second.

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Morning Joe

question to you. in your experience as a litigator, is this gait date negotiable? can it move? >> march 4th is the date she is aiming for. it is not negotiable in the sense that they can't talk about it next week, but through motion practice or appeals, could we be looking at a date further down the road? absolutely. but is it her intent to try this case before the election, and will she do that? i believe she will. >> john, obviously, trump and his team have lumped all these investigations together as, quote, election interference. in other words, suggesting that this justice department is trying to prevent him from becoming president of the united states again. does this add a little fuel to his case, if unfairly, that the day before super tuesday, a day when he likely would be crisscrossing the country, going to key states and campaigning, that he is going to be sitting in a courtroom, does the eve of

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Election 2024 The Campaign and the Courtroom

think we can't be assured that a judge isn't going to go the other way on this thing. >> and let me ask you this. you worked for donald trump. you worked in his white house. do you think that there's any chance whatsoever that he would accept a plea agreement if it means keeping him out of jail? i mean as much as he is trying to make a mint off of his mug shot, i can't imagine he wants to spend any time in the slammer. >> look, this state case is probably going to get heard two years down the road. i know what the trial date is, but state cases tend to drag on. there's going to be a lot of motion practice in the state case. i do believe that the federal cases are going to go fairly early. i think you could see a trial in the spring in the january 6th matter, and then shortly thereafter, see something in the documents case. only in the documents case a little longer because you have to go through all the -- you know, the confidential, the classified information procedures act. you know, those are the issues that have to be heard by appellate courts as both sides

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CNN This Morning Weekend

hey, let's go, i want them to do this. this was in response to mr. chesebro saying, hey, i want my trial, i want it now, and the prosecutor saying, fine, we'll have it now, the judge agreeing and setting the schedule. it may not be practical. there could be inherent delays, motion practice, rights for the attorney going on trial who may assert and it may take time to play out. so while it's scheduled, it may not go on october 23rd at this time. >> chesebro was part of a multi-state plot. if his trial goes on october 23rd and wraps up before trump even goes to trial, do you see the outcome of that impacting trump's trial? >> so i think it impacts it in the following way. i think we would get a preview as the trial went forward as to

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Alex Witt Reports

aren't doing anything but allowing the court and the eighth office to get bogged down in motion practice and going back and forth to try to keep this train on the tracks. so, i'm not making any move until i see how things are shaping out, but this in a big picture scheme does play to donald trump's advantage, at least in the short run, because he wants to continue to delay. >> let me ask you one last question, charles,-year-olds a civil rights attorney, when you look at this mugshot of the former president of the united states, who has now been indicted four times, what does it tell you about the state of america's justice system? >> well, i think it is a very important inflection point. we've been talking about the march today and looking back at what it means for america, and i think that it's such a sharp contrast that as you are having the same recognition and revisiting of many of the issues around black unemployment, around civil rights, around equal access that the march was intended to do 60 years ago, you have now the former president of the

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Newsday

chesebro the codefendants surrender? the: chesebro request the codefendants surrender? ti;e: chesebro request for the codefendants surrender? ti9: chesebro request for a speedy trial, that is handled expeditiously and ministerial eat in georgia. he is entitled to that and he is entitled to a trial before november six for the trial to begin of this year and so october 23 was the date proposed by the prosecutor and accepted by the judge. proposed by the prosecutor and accepted by thejudge. he is entitled to that date. now what is going to happen is there is going to bejust a is going to happen is there is going to be just a tremendous volume of what is called motion practice for a lot of defendants looking to sever and waving their speedy trial rights, say "i am not ready" and so on. so i think that is going to be the next batch of action. i am going to be the next batch of action. iam not going to be the next batch of action. i am not expecting the removal petitions to the federal court to do much other than delaying the case. as

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Alex Wagner Tonight

northern counties on the east. it touches alabama. so, some very conservative parts of the state. they may perceive an advantage. in reality, there may not really be a big one there. >> but even if there isn't an advantage, i think joyce would agree with me that, what this shows is the opportunity for a delay. this indictment hasn't even been baked for 24 hours, and already they have a removal motion going, and other defendants might do that. so i think it just shows you how fraught this is going to be to do with -- >> 19 people -- >> 19 defendants -- there is a motion practice that is going to go on for months. the idea that this is six months in the making is just not realistic. >> yeah, joyce, i should mention that rudy giuliani, who we spent some time talking about at the start of this program, is also suggesting they should be moved to federal court. is it a foregone conclusion that trump and everyone else involved in this is going to try to move it to federal court? to set aside the jury piece of it, how meaningfully could that delay this thing? >> so, laura is dead on the money. motions practiced here will be all about delay.

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Jose Diaz-Balart Reports

together for a hearing together. with us, msnbc legal analyst, lisa ruben. lisa, let's start off by defining what a protective order is in this case. >> a protective order, josé, is something that governs discovery in a civil or criminal case. discovery is essentially the evidence that the government would be relying on whether that is statements by witnesses, texts, phone records and the like. before they produce any of that to former president trump they want to guarantee that certain materials are going to remain confidential until they develop a plan for how they will use them at trial or in motion practice, and as former president trump who is fighting back and saying, no, i want an opportunity to be able to discuss these, to reveal them, and to be able to tell the american people why it is that these documents don't support a

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The Lead With Jake Tapper

timeline and set a trial date, and they'll also set dates for motion practice, which means you have to have all of your defenses and the things you want me to look at, the sufficiency of the grand jury, the first amendment, the venue, all of the things, the advice of counsel, all the things that they're going to argue about this indictment, the judge will give donald trump's lawyers a deadline to have to submit those written motions and then they'll give the prosecution a deadline to submit those motions and a deadline to respond to the motions and then set a hearing date. and that will happen between september, october, november. but by december i think there's no reason this case can't go to trial around the first of the year. like somebody else was saying before, there's no procedural issues involved with classified documents the way there are in the mar-a-lago case with top secret clearance and all of that. i think that jack smith will

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