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Concerned weisselberg could say more? >> i would not be surprised if weisselberg's attorney spoke to trump's attorneys and told him what he was asked about and what he answered. one of the great unanswered questions, i don't know the answer to it, is, is the southern district which obtained the guilty plea for michael cohen, where michael cohen said i did these illegal acts at the direction of president trump, then candidate trump, are they following up on that? are they doing more investigation? i don't know the answer to that yet. it may be that weisselberg's testimony was directed to gettin...

The role model to americans, that's all nonsense, right? you don't care about character, you care about winning? >> excuse me. i think i just said it's very disturbing to me and i don't like it, it's something i find reprehensible, but the issue -- the issue is with bill clinton, as you know, jeffrey, very well, bill clinton wasn't impeached because of bill clinton's behavior in the white house, he was impeached because he committed perjury, so let's just get to the reality of it. >> let's -- >> quit trying to confuse the issue. >> whether this president told the truth or not may become an iss...

Losses at that point, burying stories because of its relationship with the president, and then an effort to try to get hold of all of that apparently on the order of the president. that's what it's about. not about -- >> a private citizen. >> but -- but if it was to sway the election, did the president order michael cohen to do it, as he testified in court under oath, again, that's the key question here. senator, jeffrey toobin, maggie, thank you very much. let's check in with chris cuomo to see what he's working on the top of the hour. >> spicy little bit of moral relativism you have going on...

This point that the president supporters, doesn't move them at all, i imagine, this is what you're going to tell me, they already baked it into the cake, the "access hollywood" tape didn't move it, nothing else will move. >> i've been listening to this and i'm having a hard time keeping my dinner down. this is not a very pleasant conversation to talk about the president of the united states and all of these potential scirrulous types of activities, and his concern about those things coming out is not fun to listen to. i don't think supporters like listening to it. you come back to the point of...

With us now along with cnn commentator and former republican presidential president, rick santorum. maggie, you've been sitting here the whole time while i've been talking about you and your reporting. thank you for that. since you're here coincidentally, what i'm talking about, walk us through it. the president and michael cohen, you're saying wanted to buy decades of dirt. >> when my colleague and i first wrote about the existence of that tape, we didn't have the audio, it was described by people on both sides familiar with it in the very narrow context of karen mcdougal and reimbursing her ...