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he's never going to learn. one he's tagged with a verdict that's so huge it makes him shut up or two somebody enjoins him from speaking. that means someone tells him he can't speak and you and i know with the first amendment that won't happen. but the judicial system is going to get to the point where the dollar signs are so big he shuts up. >> i won't hold my breath but we'll see. i want to turn to the political arena there is a hardened calcified analysis because the "access hollywood" tape didn't derail him in 2016 his continued and ongoing belief that grabbing women in the you know what, is okay. because for one million years stars can do it. let me show you his position today, today, about the act of

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the curb, doesn't pay them and the like. so no great desire. ty cobb said that he thinks he is going to jail. so a stunning turn of events about and the evidence that we're talking about, we mentioned it yesterday with the 50 pages of notes, the most coy confidential content that you never think will come out and it is so informative and i think that it will go down among other things as him amazing of skurnts or former lawyers. >> lawyers only write things down to protect theirclients.

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>> i was told that swat her wishes work. >> what about those tapes that sounded damning. he said the tape didn't prove anything. why go down this road, why hire who you think is a hitman -- >> i never thought he was a hitmen. you have to understand something, i never thought these people were violent criminals at all. >> that's not how it appears on the tapes. >> if you listen to what is that, i never asked him to hurt anybody, i never asked them to kill anybody. >> but remember he did offer a suggestion on how to kill her. >> give her an extension of potassium chloride and stop her heart. >> why are you telling him how to do this? >> i will talk about that when i'm on the witness stand. >> there is nothing that you want to share now? >> no. >> we also asked how her husband became a target? >> i had nothing to do with what was going on with mac. >> leon told us he was being kind to meghan, it was a different story with valerie.

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confused tapp was. even ten days after his first interviews, he still seemed not to know what house angie lived in. >> did she live on the corner? >> police, carol noticed, kept correcting him. for a guy who had taken part in a murder, tapp also seemed not to know much about the layout of angie's apartment. >> why don't you try to draw it out. >> when they asked him to draw it, he couldn't do it. detectives even perhaps inadvertently showed him where the murder occurred. >> roogt -- bathroom right here. and the bedroom, right back here. >> oh, yes. and there was more. police had always told carol that chris tapp knew things only the killer would know, the location and position of angie's body, the clothes she was wearing. well, now carol could see for herself on tape the reason chris

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190102:01:01:00

>> now, a mother turns detective. >> her words to me, i'll never forgot were, i just want to know what happened to my daughter. >> join in as he hunts for a killer and searches for the truth. >> i want to put my fist through the tv. >> still brings the hair up on the back of my neck. >> the confession. hello, and welcome to "dateline" extra. i'm craig melvin. though just 18 ears old, i think ay was stabbed to death in her bedroom. within months a local named christopher tap admitted he was one of her killers, a grizzly tale police captured on videotape. but for i think ay's mom, the troubling details revealed on that tape didn't give her answers. in fact, they raised more questions. here's keith morrison.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190102:01:47:00

>> well, of course one of the difficulties was your story kept changing, right? >> very much it did. >> i mean, you went from saying i don't know anything about this to then saying, well, maybe ben had something to do with it, to then, well, maybe there's a third guy involved. wait a minute, i was there. and, oh, yeah, i cut her. where did that come from? >> trying to give them what they wanted to hear, just to appease them. >> wait a minute, but why would you say you cut her? >> during that time, mr. furhman, he said hypothetical, even if you did cut her, we'll get you another deal, we'll be able to help you, you just need to help us. >> indeed, here it is. on tape, with then detective jared fuhrman in charge of the interview. >> hypothetically if chris tapp was holding on to angie as she is being cut and some other stuff was going on or if chris tapp took part in the knife and any way, shape or form in

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>> this is tapp's mother, vera, she understand what he apparently did not that her son was quite possibly talking himself into very big trouble. >> mom, i don't have anything to hide. i want to tell them that i don't know anything. >> but it didn't quite work out that way. before long, chris tapp had written a statement for police saying that ben hobbs said he killed her and i just laughed it off like he was just telling me a joke. >> ah, but that was just the beginning. over the next several weeks they had tapp in here nine times, questioning him 20 hours, even gave him an immunity deal and that is when mr. tapp's story began to evolve. yes, he admitted he was there when ben hobbs killed angie, even held her down he admitted when ben stabbed her and then finally, he said, he even stabbed her once himself. the motive, revenge. supposedly angie had been meddling in ben's marriage and mr. hobbs did not like that one bit. >> so detectives confronted hobbs, who denied any part in

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190102:01:07:00

>> why do you think you're down here? >> honestly, i have no idea. >> one of whom was a 20-year-old named christopher tapp. he was no felon but he was an admitted druggie and what do you know, chris tapp had a bit of a history with ex-school resource offer now detective furhman. >> he was in trouble a time or two? >> he was. just trying to help him out. >> i trust you and hopefully you trust me, okay? >> yes, said tapp. he trusted fuhrman, but didn't know anything he said about angie's murder. >> if i did know anything about this, i would say. but i do not know. that's the honest truth. >> having made his statement, christopher tapp went home, in the clear apparently. couple of days later, the detectives asked him to come downtown again. >> i told him, i says, what are you doing? i says, this is a murder case.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20190102:01:48:00

cutting her, okay -- >> but i didn't. >> would you listen? >> i am sorry. >> okay. hypothetically -- >> yes, sir. okay. >> if you took part in any of that, that's okay because you're still here, you're still showing some good faith that you want to cooperate and the prosecutor will reconsider another possible exactly. >> you believed that story? >> hook, line and sinker. >> try to put yourself there right now and tell me what's going on inside your stomach and your brain. >> scared. trying to figure out what they want, just for them to leave me alone. >> why? >> i didn't kill nobody. i was never there the night the murder happened. they just kept focussing on, well, if you was there, if you did do it, if you held a knife, it is okay. we'll help you. so like an idiot, i believed them. >> and then they charge you with murder? >> yeah. >> now, of course, chris tapp is fighting to clear his own name,

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20181225:16:01:00

because that hand print doesn't belong to the man police put in prison. >> the anger just surged through me. >> reporter: now, a mother turns detective. >> her words to me i'll never forget were i just want to know what happened to my daughter. >> join in as she hunts for a killer and searches for the truth. >> i wanted to put my fist through the tv. >> it still brings the hair up on on the back of my neck. >> "the confession". hello and welcome to "da "dateline extra" i'm craig melvin though 18 years old, angie dodge was eager to live life on her own terms. she'd found a job and an apartment. then angie was stabbed to death in her bedroom. a local admitted he was one of his killers, a grisly tale police captured on videotape. for angie's mom, the troubling details revealed on that tape didn't give her answers. in fact, they raised more

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