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From a.g.barr tonight specifically when he said i am now reviewing this material and considering what can be disclosed to congress and the public and consulting with deputy attorney general rod rosenstein on that and robert mueller on that. it's interesting the special counsel himself would be consulted about what of his findings can be given to congress and the public. i wonder if that was expected as far as you're concerned or if that struck you the way it struck me? >> it is striking but striking because throughout this process, mueller and his reputation are the 800-pound gorilla inside th...

Rosenstein on that and robert mueller on that. it's interesting the special counsel himself would be consulted about what of his fin findings can be given to congress and the public. i wonder if that was expected as far as you're concerned or if that struck you the way it struck me? >> it is striking but striking because throughout this process, mueller and his reputation are the 800-pound gorilla inside the justice department. one thing we laernlearned in th letter is nobody objected to the move mueller wanted to make and barr as best we can tell so far continued the tradition of as much as p...

Investigation, you really needed to speak with manafort. even if he doesn't have anything that can lead to another prosecution, his testimony in knowing everything that he knew is essential because you have to turn over all of these rocks to make sure that you've run down every lead. just by simply cooperating, he helps move mueller along. >> barbara, that raises a question of what michael is saying. from the standpoint of mueller to agree to a deal like this, but my understanding is this doesn't look like a lot of prison time many future for paul manafort. to agree to this kind of deal, do yo...

Years. now, you suggest that he will corroborate with the special countdo counsel. i am sure you have read it. for every move mueller makes the president has a counter disin incentivize. >> he says tprocess works. this one is vehicle. the target is a vast arsenal. what do you make of his counter argument here? >> there is no doubt about it. they're going put up charges in their arguments, no doubt. i can tell you from 30 years along law enforcement and working hundreds of thousands of cases are what we recall crime cases are people bho who are hardly criminals. when you grab gang members and d...