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Hampshire. he endorsed sanders in 2016, this time around said he was open to other candidates, looking and kicking tires of other campaigns, with that, came home to senator sanders. he wanted to you are support a candidate that's a movement candidate. his words. i was in the room, a lady asked about electability. she said trump is going to call you a socialist. how do you plan to handle that. he said trump will call any democrat a name. he plans to handle it by exciting voters, getting new voters in the fold. without naming joe biden by name, said you can't have another candidate where you hav...

Boris johnson might be annalgized to donald trump, but he's pro-socialized medicine and for net zero carbon emissions by 2050. they're very different. they have a multiparty system. >> you're not as worried about the democratic field? >> i don't think anyone can necessarily say that because jeremy corbyn lost we have to have a moderate here. remember, what i fear of this process is coming out the other side with a hobbled nominee who has high unfavorability ratings. all you have to do is look at 2016 election. we had 66 million americans vote for hillary clinton. 63 million americans voted for...

Numbers? >> you have to have both. and i think ryan was getting to it, that biden is not a movement candidate. he's a sort of imagine who your republican friend in michigan might vote for candidate, which is not as inspiring naturally as some of these democrats. i'd also say the reason you didn't have a super pac before is part of an argument he made in campaigns. he was ready to not have a super pac because he thought he would make it harder to inspire people and be a credible advocate for the middle class. when he ran in 2007, 2008 it's kind of forgotten now, he was an advocate of private fi...

And pennsylvania are like, i know this is cliche' but they're like, yo, my premiums just went up again. and they want to hear somebody look them in the eye and say, okay. >> they're looking for leadership. >> that's right. >> and the key is how do you project leadership and not just look like one that is full of negative attacks on who is the present president? >> that's right. >> who can emerge from this field and say i am the one that can lead us out of this mess not just analyze the mess we're in. jesse? >> well, i think vice president biden is actually -- i think he's got room to run in th...

Collins in and senior political reporter nia-malika henderson. nia, i mean, what do you make of these comments. >> it's hilarious. i don't know if i believe donald trump that he felt badly for bernie sanders when that black lives matter crowd -- protest movement took over his rally but sanders is attracting these huge crowds. over the last seven days it's been something like 100,000 people have shown up for these rallies. a lot of the attention and vibrancy of the democratic party is with bernie sanders. he's very much a movement candidate. he talks about taking out the billionaire class. it's...