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Problem. where this started. is it a fair criticism to say you were dismissive of the lab theory early on and you are more open now. why did you change? >> it's not entirely fair. when this virus first emerged, all of us were deeply engaged in studying the letters and sequence. to understand what the connection was with previous viruss and we could see it was a bat virus that looked like one that had been found in cave in china seven years earlier. it had a lot of differences. then the theory began maybe it's human engineered. app intentional bio weapon. put together with the intention of kill...

Ground. that leads us to our current problem with contagion, which is where this started. is it a fair criticism to say that you were dismissive of the lab theory early on and that now you are more open to it, and if it is fair, why did you change? >> it's not entirely fair, chris. you know, when this virus first emerged, all of us at nih were deeply engaged in studying its genome, its letters and its sequence, to try to understand what its connection was with previous viruses. we could see it was a bat virus, it looked a lot like one that had been found in a cave in china seven or eight years...