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Rudy giuliani tells the "new york times," quote, the president said there was a proposal. it was discussed with cohen. there was a non-binding letter of intent and it didn't go beyond that. giuliani says prosecutors did not raise certain details a that michael cohen now says he mislead congress about, including how long the hotel project stayed alive and that the president did not volunteer those details. a white house staffer says the fear in trump world is that mueller may have laid a perjury trap for the president. mu mueller waited until after trump submitted written answers under oath to ...

That the president is neither taking this seriously nor prepared to handle it strategically if he did take it seriously. >> reporter: well, he's planning to deal with it on his own terms. for this president that means twitter. you've seen this very public response from the president and heard it from rudy giuliani talking to hallie jackson saying they plan to challenge any mu mueller report by refuting the report. that's not a legal strategy, that's a pr strategy. this morning as you mentioned we've had a lot of media criticism from the president. but in trying mcgahn's departure, he forced hi...

May have been in donald trump's office when don junior came and said, hey, we're about to meet with the russians. so he seemed to corroborate that. >> that's not good. is it? >> he also put gates potentially in the pre-planning meeting, which would be huge, if true, since as we all know, gates, rick gates, paul manafort business partner, has been cooperating with the special counsel for several months, which means we don't have to rely just on michael cohen for this information, that rick gates may have confirmed it and mu mueller known about it a long time. bottom line, the number of conspira...

Better not publicly challenge this president. >> i tell you two things. the first is it's not about being careful ott not. one of the things that gives the president strength within the party is many of the republicans feel like he's treated unfairly. the media is outraged by everything he does and overreaches. people are not oblivious and don't agree with everything he does, but they feel he's treated so unfairly on such a consistent basis, whether you agree or not, that they feel like they've got to kind of balance it out defending him. he's doing exactly what he said he would do if he get e...

Recommended to him, and he's told us, i haven't pardoned anybody, i'm not going to pardon anybody. >> he has some people. >> gosh, that he has a right to do. >> although they do send a message. especially this early in the administration. >> what is he supposed to do? >> wait until the end. >> not do his job because mueller is investigating. >> there's a reason he's doing them right now. you don't think there's a message in any of the pardons? >> i don't think so. i think he's executing his constitutional function. if he didn't do it, he shouldn't be president. >> why do you think presidents u...