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On sunday morning. >> it's kind of interesting because the conflict that we had a couple months ago is he thought he was questioning his faith and he went ballistic on that. so it seems a little interest that he would now be doing that. you know, i really refuse to really get into the mud pit. >> joining us now kasie hunt, msnbc political correspondent joins us from boulder, colorado, the site of wednesday's republican debate on cnbc. and also with us, opinion writer for the "washington post" on msnbc political analyst and jonathan allen, chief political voernt for voks, also the co-author of ...

Sleeping. >> i don't get into the mud pit. >> carson is lower energy than bush, i don't get it. >> i'm not going to be talking about people. >> carson, i don't know what the hell is going on there. >> i've been attacked since i got in this thing. it's nothing new. >> ben carson is a very low energy person. >> the only question is will there be ten attacks a day or 15? >> i'm presbyterian. boy, that the down the middle of the road, folks, in all fairness. i mean seventh day adventous i don't know about. >> he said he would apologize if he said something bad about carson's faith, which he said h...

Downplayed the first and began taking sharper jabs and some believe carson's religious believes. here is a sampling back and forth and the part about religion so you can decide for yourself what to make of it. >> we have a breaking story, donald trump has fallen to second place behind ben carson. we informed ben, but he was sleeping. >> i don't get into the mud pit. >> carson is lower energy than bush, i don't get it. >> i'm not going to be talking about people. >> carson, i don't know what the hell is going on there. >> i've been attacked since i got in this thing. it's nothing new. >> ben ca...

From the key voting block. in the interview of "state of the union" trump recycled the attack he used against jeb bush. >> carson is a low energy person. he is lower energy than jeb. we need strong energy. >> reporter: carson has eclipsed or drawn even with trump in two polls of likely caucus goers. trump sent attacks carson's way. carson avoided engaging the billionaire. >> i refuse to get into the mud pit. hillary was right when she said the republicans are there trying to destroy each other. i really think that was a huge mistake in the last cycle. i'm certainly not going to get into that. ...

Together, they are the dominant forces in the republican race for president. donald trump and ben carson joined up to challenge the rules in this week's upcoming gop debate, a debate they enter as the unquestionable front-runners for their party's nomination. our latest national poll finds carson and trump sharing a combined 47% of all support on the republican side. but as carson has overcome trump with a double-digit lead in iowa, trump has begun to go on the attack. >> carson is -- i don't know what's going on. carson is lower energy than bush. i don't understand what's going on. >> for his...