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Went to rosenstein. rosenstein went to tax division to get their sign off on it after which he signed off on it and wrote a letter to confirm that expanded mandate. what the judge wants is the unredacted version of that. they produced the redacted version which relates only to manafort. the judge wants to see the broader investigation. they have now complied with that, i'm told and the judge hopefully will rule on the law and let the mueller case proceed. >> i didn't want to let you say that because that was a bad fact for me. i was trying to get you there before. i will deal with it anyway. o...

Target or subject or witness in a grand jury and you feel your client will not do well in that setting you suggest your client not appear. in this case where the grand jury subpoena is issued i don't believe he can resist that. i think giuliani is wrong when he said because he is president he can resist grand jury subpoena. it didn't work out that well for bill clinton. he has to face the reality that his client will likely have to testify. it may be that he or the real lawyers on the team can negotiate with mueller. the parameters of that -- for example anything that predates nogguruation is ...

President will not take the fifth in this case? >> how can i be confident of that? when i'm facing a situation with the president and other lawyers are and every lawyer in america thinks he would be a fool to testify. i have a client who wants to testify. he said it yesterday. we said i hope we get a chance to tell him the risks that he is taking. >> plenty of chances to tell him. where we are right to be skeptical is just because the president says something does meantime he mean he is telling the truth. if he doesn't testify and doesn't meet with the special counsel how do they end the probe...

It's called fighting back. joining us now is jim hiemz of connecticut. i will get to what the president's tweet was. let's talk about rudy giuliani. when he says the president doesn't have to comply with the subpoena is that right? >> that is completely wrong. as a matter of law this has never been tested but also not in question. nixon was asked to produce tapes and bill clinton was compelled to participate in a civil case. the idea that the president would have to -- could be subpoenaed is not open to question. he could plead the fifth. >> and rudy giuliani seems to suggest that is something...

Investigation. >> right. >> that goes right back to obstruction of justice. >> the latter part of that line oh what a tangled web we weave is, "when we practice to deceive." these guys aren't practicing much. it seems more like the keystone kops, except it's the keystone kriminals. they didn't get the memo on how to lie. so this is what we've seen unfold this week. they also had some very good news this week. there's a judge in the paul manafort case, judge ellis, who essentially rebuked mueller and his team and said they were out to hurt the president. we don't know whether that's an indicati...