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Barr has the ability to stop at least the southern district investigation, he cannot stop the state, and he cannot stop a co ordinant branch of government congress. those investigations will continue. and indeed must continue because mueller's mandate was so limited. just focusing on russia, not the broader set of questions. >> neil katyal, former acting solicitor general of the united states. it's a pleasure to have you here tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> i want to thank everybody for being with us tonight. we will see you again the next time something like this happens, which could be ...

>> neil katyal, former acting solicitor general of the united states. it's a pleasure to have you here tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> i want to thank everybody for being with us tonight. we will see you again the next time something like this happens, which could be any minute. i will say, this is an historic -- this is an historic landmark moment in the mueller investigation. at this point, what now will happen is a whole new fight and a whole new waiting game in terms of figuring out what exactly mueller determined. to have the investigation come to a close, to have their be a document...

Ground that he wasn't charged. all right. so do you think we'll hear the details into the president's conduct? >> yeah, my best guess is yes, there is going to be an overwhelming demand for it. i don't know if the department will fight hard on it or not. my sense is they have already kind of gamed this out. this is not the first time barr saw the report and they have a pretty good sense of what they will pass on. as laura says, it's a flat out catch 22. we know a big part of what mueller investigated had to do with the president's conduct. that's certainly been included to barr and the general...

Details into the president's conduct? >> yeah, my best guess is yes, there is going to be an overwhelming demand for it. i don't know if the department will fight hard on it or not. my sense is they have already kind of gamed this out. this is not the first time barr saw the report and they have a pretty good sense of what they will pass on. as laura says, it's a flat out catch 22. we know a big part of what mueller investigated had to do with the president's conduct. that's certainly been included to barr and the general policy that you don't talk about people who weren't indicted i think giv...

He cannot stop a coordinate branch of government, congress. and so those investigations will continue and indeed must continue because mueller's mandate was so limited. just focusing on russia, not on the broader set of questions. >> neal katyal, former acting solicitor general of the united states. neal, it's an honor to have you in the nbc and msnbc family and a real pleasure to have you here tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> all right. i want to thank everybody for being with us tonight. we will see you again the next time something like this happens, which could be any minute. i will sa...