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Elliptical statements from -- >> that's the mueller document. >> right. but they stand in. and also, sdny, you know, in terms of the three crimes you set out. but what underlies them is seven -- is dozens of hours of detailed conversation from cohen, so we now know he was sitting there giving chapter and verse not just about his own involvement, not just some of his own financial high jinx, the very crimes that clearly the president was involved in. the stormy -- the campaign finance crimes. and now we know the russian -- what they call the moscow project, the trump tower overture that connect...

Convinced. but i think that you're seeing that more and more. so, yes, you know, there's no -- i know that i'm sure that many conservatives, many republicans would say that we've got a partisan grudge, that we want to go after the president. that's not the case at all. folks are very reluctant to go down this path and are sobered by it. but at the same time you can't ignore the evidence. >> congressman, good to see you tonight. congressman joaquin castro of texas, thank you for being here. >> thank you. >> we've been talking about -- the congressman just mentioned the third document. tonight, ...

Promising to get the russian government to clear the way for trump tower moscow in exchange for political and business considerations. synergy. there's also a footnote in which cohen admits he lied when he said he had never talked to trump about trying to set up a meeting with putin. "the defendant admitted this account was false and that he had in fact conferred with individual one about contacting the russian government before reaching out to gauge russia's interest in such a meeting." but i'm not done yet. there's one more thing. mueller also released a heavily redacted document involving p...

>> it reads like good cop, bad cop. the southern district of new york is giving its reasons for why they're not recommending a 5k1 letter for mr. cohen, saying it's not a good guy, he's done bad things and they walk through it with great care. i think the key one is the campaign finance violation that i know you want to talk about later. and then -- but they say, listen, we're not so to speak throwing the book at him because he is actually cooperating with robert mueller and then robert mueller weighs in and says yes, there is our two cents on it and our seven pages, but that's -- that's a blo...

Remains with us. thank you guys. make sense of this, ken. we've talked about michael cohen and two of the three reports but this one's juicy and interesting. what does it tell us that we didn't know? i wish i could make sense of it, ali. it's a strange predicament paul manafort has himself in. he lied, according to this document, about things that were provable. either that or he didn't realize, perhaps -- some of these things he's said to have lied about, including interactions with this guy kilimnik, the special counsel has documentary evidence, emalts, text, phone communications to prove hi...