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Dossier, ceiling records to get mueller appointed, the partnership of the prosecutors he has, and the justice department should protect president trump from this continued harassment and to shut mueller down. no other prosecutor would be allowed to harass the president with questions about issues that he can't be indicted on, this is crazy. >> janine: it so tom is right, the doj should protect the president and they are obviously not doing that. so the president should not sit down with mueller. what benefit does he get? >> from his standpoint, he feels like he is innocent and unfairly persecu...

She doesn't. the president never was going to fire mueller. i don't see that happening. it's no evidence of it. he is not talking about doing it. >> sandra: how should we perceive the president saying as a result of everything we're talking about. all the documents from the transition period being turned over without notice says the president's lawyers. the president says it does not look good. how should we perceive that? >> here is why it doesn't look good. what i understand the mueller team went to the gsa, who has access to those documents. the director of the gsa turned mueller down. and ...

How significant is this letter one way or another? >> i don't know. but they're looking at the aggravation of evidence, and clearly obstruction of justice is something that is very much on the mind of mr. mueller. we now know attorneys for president have met with the special counsel to address specifically this case of obstruction. so anything that adds any weight to the notion that the president's true motivation was to stop comey from pursuing this investigation would be of great interest to mr. mueller. >> david gergen, how do you see this? what do you make of the draft letter, particularly...

Specifically this case of obstruction. so anything that adds any weight to the notion that the president's true mopresiden president's motivation would be of great interest to mr. mueller. >> david, what do you make of the draft letter, particularly that the white house counsel thought it was a bad idea. >> i think we need to be cautious because no one has seen the letter outside of the mueller team. a few people at the white house. a do think that mueller clearly is looking for questions. does this add to a sense that there was an in tent just as david axelrod said was there a motivation to s...

Whether or not they were federal election donations by member of the team isn't going to be an availing strategy. e we saw that with the interview with joy. now we have seen republican senators and house members push back as an effective strategy. >> david, do you agree and do you think we'll see more and more criticizing bob mueller? >> as was mentioned, it's certainly ab attempt to see how the strategy may play out. this pr strategy to take mueller down. none other than ken star himself touted mueller's character and what an incredible legal team he's put together. so when they aren't on the...