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Jackets. i think he likes being out of prison. most people do. i think the government has a huge about of leverage over him. he has very important things to tell the government. right now, we have an issue whether donald trump knew beforehand that the trump tower meeting was going to take place and did he approve it. >> manafort would know that because he was in that meeting. >> correct. >> manafort is key. richard gates is key. manafort has a lot to tell about that and there may be other issues with respects to the russians and may be other things he knows. mueller needs him. mueller is putti...

Huge about of leverage over him. he has very important things to tell the government. right now, we have an issue whether donald trump knew beforehand that the trump tower meeting was going to take place and did he approve it. >> manafort would know that because he was in that meeting. >> correct. >> manafort is key. richard gates is key. manafort has a lot to tell about that and there may be other issues with respects to the russians and may be other things he knows. mueller needs him. mueller is putting together his case brick by brick by brick and is very methodical and very careful and the...