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Succeeded where others failed. We have a president who really wants to fight for the American People and he wants to make sure that the rule of law is followed. And so when you have a case like this where in 2004 this individual is told that he is no longer a u. S. Citizen and must be deported and consecutive administrations ignores that it tears down the rule of law. It takes somebody like the president to say this is a decision. He is no longer a United States citizen. We want him out. Sandra brian yenis joins us in new york. What more do we know about how this former nazi guard managed to g...

People said that he really was struggling in the moment to figure out what to do and in that period of time he threw out these different things, he threw out the idea of wearing a wire, he talks about the 25th amendment. this sort of captures the chaos going on inside the justice department as they moved towards what is the ultimate decision, which was to appoint mueller >> so, mike, it sounds like the man was overmatched by history at the time, perhaps he has grown into his job, but at the time it sounds like he was overmatched because what a bush league move to wear a wire to try to build up...

>> eric: how about those who say you don't have anything to worry about in a perjury trap if you just tell the truth? >> that's true. but just take for example what the president said about being able to run the mueller investigation if he wanted. that was -- i took that as a joke of bravado. it is an extension of the legal advice he has that he has lots of flexibility. he says things which get him into trouble and people take seriously. he is not the kind of witness that giuliani would like to put on the stand. >> eric: he also said if i say something that he, comey, says something and it's m...

Digenova'ses wifdigenova's, you were nodding your head. >> the person that they represent now is a witness against donald trump. he's talking or cooperating with mueller so mueller, the lawyers cannot at the same time represent someone who may be out to get or who has in criminating information against the president and at the same time representing the president. even if these lawyers are able to persuade their clients into waiving, a judge is not going to allow that. again, it is a textbook example of conflicts. >> the president just shot from the hips on this. this is work that's normally d...

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