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Fundamental u.s. goal. this is when the u.s. needs more multi-laterallism. the world is a complicated and dangerous place, and you guys need other countries to help you out so when you spy on your friends, it makes them less friendly especially after the president has said to chancellor merkel i'm not going to do it anymore. >> you're saying this as a canadian. >> i'm saying it as a canadian politician. we love you guys but please don't spy on us. >> that being said, you know your phone is probably tapped. >> i'm not that important. >> thank you all. fantastic conversation.

The world ought to be constrained, as opposed to encouraged? >> i think he's the first one who has been able to implement it in so many perilous ways. certainly, he's very close philosopheically to michaeldi dukakis, jimmy carter -- dukakis, never elected. cart her his own problems. obama because of the maimplts in the first two years in particular, was able to ram through the new start arms control, through the senate, very detrimental to american national security, the budget cuts because of the horrendous sequestration deal cut on the hill, are going to have dramatically negative effects on...

Constrained, as opposed to encouraged? >> i think he's the first one who has been able to implement it in so many perilous ways. certainly, he's very close philosopheically to michaeldi dukakis, jimmy carter -- dukakis, never elected. cart her his own problems. obama because of the maimplts in the first two years in particular, was able to ram through the new start arms control, through the senate, very detrimental to american national security, the budget cuts because of the horrendous sequestration deal cut on the hill, are going to have dramatically negative effects on our military capabili...

Constrained, as opposed to encouraged? >> i think he's the first one who has been able to implement it in so many perilous ways. certainly, he's very close philosopheically to michaeldi dukakis, jimmy carter -- dukakis, never elected. cart her his own problems. obama because of the maimplts in the first two years in particular, was able to ram through the new start arms control, through the senate, very detrimental to american national security, the budget cuts because of the horrendous sequestration deal cut on the hill, are going to have dramatically negative effects on our military capabili...