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Develop a 40-year friendship with secretary powell, general powell and then it was colonel powell? well, you have two disgruntled multi-tour combat vets who are not happy with the way we conducted the war and certainly not happy with the way we left and delighted to be part of a new administration which was coming in to develop not only the weapons system we needed but redevelopment morale that our nation needed so much, so that was a natural bonding thing. one day i asked general powell, i think he was major general at the time. i said what's the secret to leadership >> reporter: how do you k...

With secretary powell, general powell and then colonel powell? well, you have two disgruntled, multi-tour combat vets who are not happy with the war and the way we left. and delighted to be part of a new administration which was coming in to develop not only the weapons systems we needed but redevelop the morale that our nation needed so much. that was a natural bonding thing. one day i asked general powell, i think major general at the time, i said what's the secret to leadership? how do you know a good leader? he said, you see some people and they look great, strapping in the uniform. but th...