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Direction. liz, what does that mean? >> i think a different direction is -- i think a lot of people choose to live in new york city. because they like to live with people who are different than them. they can learn from. experience. have all different kinds of experiences. and that means, you know, all different ethnic levels being able to live in the city. and have -- and have a life that is -- is a quality of life. and i think having a quality of life for people who are immigrants, who are, you know, of all different backgrounds, can live here and have it be a driving, multicullal city. >> h...

Interview with him, i also interviewed him for salon and he talked about the fact that people want to be here. real estate developers aren't going to go away if we get tougher with them. we have a finite resource, land. we have a lot of people, and that inclusionnary zoning and some things that mayor bloomberg kind of did on the margins, but neglected. and when push came to shove, if there was a requirement you build so much affordable housing, but the developer balked, ellen force that, and he wants to up the levels of housing -- affordable housing that are required with big luxury deals. so,...

So it makes sense to voters. they know that's something we really need. >> is this a microcosm of the country, do you think? what's unfolding here in new york city? could this play anywhere? >> i don't know anywhere. but it's more common than not. new york is the capital of liberalism, the laboratory of the new deal. and his appeal was to say to voters, we can be that again. we have a ginormous population, a huge tax base. we can innovate in a way that's scaleable and replicable and smaller cities can learn from what we do. he wants to do that. and, you know, i think that the ratio as we get t...

Welcome back to "the ed show." this is an important story for america. it's a new york story. but when you start talking about income inequality in this country, you talk about social justice and fairness, all eyes on the big city. last night new york city public advocate and two-time ed show guest, bill de blasio. i should point out he really made a turn in the polls when he was on the ed show on the weekend at 5:00. he won the most votes in the democratic mayoral primary. we won't find out until next week whether de blasio will be named the outright winner or if he will have to face the seco...

Folks a chance, right? that's what i think should happen. the fat cats on wall street spent 12 years under the protection of billionaire mayor michael bloomberg's business-friendly policies. they fear this guy being in office. >> i want to ask you directly, bill. if you were elected, are you going to be union-friendly? >> absolutely. >> absolutely? you mean we asked a question of somebody who was running for office and we got an absolute? he's going to be union-friendly? that means he's going to be worker-friendly. that means all these contracts in this city that are just open-ended and the de...